Orus

Hey Product Hunt, super excited to bring trading to a new level with Orus. Now you can connect your favorite messaging apps, starting with Whatsapp and Telegram, and your ChatGPT and Claude via the MCP. Defining your scope and permissions, Orus will scout your portfolio, find market opportunities and discuss with you what to do next. It's the most advance perpetual future trading agent today and we can wait to see how it will help you capture more upside from news, macro events, and other data points. Whatsapp shortcuts: https://wa.me/12014094182?text=start Telegram shortcuts: https://t.me/orusmcp_bot Come give it a try and let me know what do you think

For Farao, when you say “Investing with stablecoins,” are you aiming more at people who already hold USDC/USDT and want better allocation options, or at newer users who just want a simpler entry point? Also curious whether the product focuses on yield, diversification, or preserving value during market swings.

the "autonomous limits" option is what jumps out at me. once you let an LLM chat interface execute perp trades with 40x leverage unattended, you're one hallucinated instruction or one cleverly worded message in a group chat away from a bad fill, and WhatsApp/Telegram aren't exactly hardened against that compared to a proper trading UI with confirmations. is there a spend/exposure cap per session regardless of what the model decides, or is the autonomous mode fully trusting the model's read of your limits

The research-vs-execution split people are debating above is the right lens. One more question from the DEX side: does Orus route perps execution onchain (Hyperliquid-style books, GMX, etc.) or is it all against Farao's own book? If multi-venue, curious how it picks where to execute when funding/liquidity differ across venues.

This is super interesting! I'm curious with AI as an interface to trading, do you see research capabilities being the big unlock or the ability to place orders with natural language? Personally, I use my Interactive Brokers MCP all the time and don't really touch the app anymore. For me, the unlock has been the research using Claude and punch in orders once I've decided what to do. I also like Whatsapp as an interface here, are most of your users preferring Whatsapp or their Claude as the interface so far?

@raunaqvaisoha we expect to have a bit of everything but Claude and Chatgpt have a higher barrier of entry because of UX. Messaging platforms are a way more natural fit to start a conversation

@crystalmei It's a good point! I think the first users attracted to it would be those that already have stablecoins, second order effect is users that want access to different assets globally!

@galdayan Yes! very important, when connecting you can define manually and autonomously executing within your parameters (assets, leverage, % portfolio, etc.)

@joalavedra god I want to use this SO badly... I am running a custom superintelligence agentic AI that's tapping almost 100 MCP servers, many of which are custom, many of why are crypto-centric and have taken... elegant... maneuvering around safeguards clearly designed to stop folks from engaging onchain using LLMs... this feels like the missing piece, to me. I want this, so badly, haha, but it seems to setup the MCP with my agent, I need to be able to auth thru the Farao app itself, and, sadly, I find myself in "Apple Jail" for the time being & cannot download new apps from the App Store... :( That said - do you have a TestFlight build for Farao out there? :D that would work while I serve my Apple Jail time ;)

the self-custodial part matters more than most trading apps acknowledge. 40x leverage on a platform where you don't actually control your keys is a very different risk profile than 40x leverage where you do. curious how liquidations work though, if the market moves fast at 3am and your position gets liquidated, is that handled on-chain automatically or is there a centralized component involved?

@joalavedra that clears up the setup side, but I think my question was more about enforcement than configuration. if I set a leverage/portfolio % cap, is that enforced server-side on Orus's end regardless of what the model outputs, or is it more like instructions the model is expected to follow? those are pretty different failure modes if a bad prompt or hallucinated instruction ever slips through

@galdayan Orus comes with deterministic enforcements. not at the llm level but API level

@grey_seymour we've just issued an update where you can interact with it without Farao account to start

@joalavedra that's the distinction I was looking for, thanks for being direct about it. API-level enforcement is the right call here, way fewer ways for it to go wrong than trusting the model to respect a limit it read in a prompt. good to know the guardrail lives outside the LLM's control entirely.